Comments on: Open Letter to Victoria’s Secret http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/ Breaking All the Rules I Didn't Make Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:32:00 -0600 hourly 1 By: Laurie http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-8135 Laurie Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:36:13 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-8135 I just wanted to make a comment to Geoff (the first post listed)....I read your post and it completely pissed me off. It is obvious to me that you have no clue what a size 14 looks like. I was skinny all my life but towards the end of high school and into college I started to fill out. But I filled out in all the right places. I modeled as a size 14...I was a 14 and had a 6 pack stomach. I am just a curvy girl and have a lot of boob and and a lot of butt. So you might want to do some research on the sizes of women, because in my experience guys don't have a clue when it comes to size and proportion. If you are so smart....when is the last time you actually looked a woman that was a size 14? Did you ever consider that a woman that is a size 14 could actually be fit and not obese like you say...and a size 14 could even have a six pack stomach? You probably never even considered it...because guys look at the numbers and say "wow that number is high, she must be fat". A number means nothing, you need to look at the whole picture before you start flapping your gums again. All you did was make yourself look like an asshole. ***To the author of the actual BLOG...I am so glad that someone finally spoke up on behalf of us women who are not a size 8. I really hope that you mailed your letter off to the CEO.*** I just wanted to make a comment to Geoff (the first post listed)….I read your post and it completely pissed me off. It is obvious to me that you have no clue what a size 14 looks like. I was skinny all my life but towards the end of high school and into college I started to fill out. But I filled out in all the right places. I modeled as a size 14…I was a 14 and had a 6 pack stomach. I am just a curvy girl and have a lot of boob and and a lot of butt. So you might want to do some research on the sizes of women, because in my experience guys don’t have a clue when it comes to size and proportion. If you are so smart….when is the last time you actually looked a woman that was a size 14? Did you ever consider that a woman that is a size 14 could actually be fit and not obese like you say…and a size 14 could even have a six pack stomach? You probably never even considered it…because guys look at the numbers and say “wow that number is high, she must be fat”. A number means nothing, you need to look at the whole picture before you start flapping your gums again. All you did was make yourself look like an asshole.

***To the author of the actual BLOG…I am so glad that someone finally spoke up on behalf of us women who are not a size 8. I really hope that you mailed your letter off to the CEO.***

]]> By: Cassie http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6751 Cassie Mon, 21 Apr 2008 03:58:33 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6751 Amen to that! I used to love VS bras because they were the only pretty ones that came in DD's. Then I got pregnant, my boobs got bigger, and I have been wearing depressingly dull bras ever since. I would love to see VS make bras in bigger sizes. And I plan on breastfeeding, so I would love to see them make a nursing bra too. But I guess nursing bras just aren't sexy enough for them... Amen to that! I used to love VS bras because they were the only pretty ones that came in DD’s. Then I got pregnant, my boobs got bigger, and I have been wearing depressingly dull bras ever since. I would love to see VS make bras in bigger sizes. And I plan on breastfeeding, so I would love to see them make a nursing bra too. But I guess nursing bras just aren’t sexy enough for them…

]]> By: Amber http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6700 Amber Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:00:54 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6700 My thoughts exactly. I especially like how you pointed out that the catologs are designed in such a way to be pleasing to the male's sexual organ. That's so true! When I look at a VS catalog, I just get annoyed because the women have large, perfectly rounded breasts, perfect waists, and absolutely no love handles. Come on now! This is not an accurate representation of the average American woman. I just want to know how many of these models have had multiple children because a lot changes after that. Even if they do have children, they probably have nannies to watch their kids while they spend hours in the gym each day. Amen to your post! My thoughts exactly. I especially like how you pointed out that the catologs are designed in such a way to be pleasing to the male’s sexual organ. That’s so true! When I look at a VS catalog, I just get annoyed because the women have large, perfectly rounded breasts, perfect waists, and absolutely no love handles. Come on now! This is not an accurate representation of the average American woman. I just want to know how many of these models have had multiple children because a lot changes after that. Even if they do have children, they probably have nannies to watch their kids while they spend hours in the gym each day. Amen to your post!

]]> By: Jen E http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6683 Jen E Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:47:32 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6683 Here, Here!!!!! I have nothing else to add! :) Here, Here!!!!! I have nothing else to add! :)

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6681 Stephanie Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:19:57 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6681 Nice! Can I donate the stamp? I work in advertising/marketing and large companies really get caught up in their brand. It's amazing. Nice! Can I donate the stamp?

I work in advertising/marketing and large companies really get caught up in their brand. It’s amazing.

]]> By: Isabella http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6679 Isabella Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:07:23 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6679 I completely agree with every sentence in your post! It is the company's own fault they ended up in this mess, and they should deal with the consequences. I used to work there, and I know too well the pushing of credit and service. It has gotten worse, I won't even go in anymore for fear of being stalked by the sales people. While I am a small, I have to say that even on my end of the spectrum, VS does not offer any choices. I never find A cups in pretty bras. If you are not a 34C, which most women aren't, you cannot shop there. Bras are not meant to cater to the sexual desires of men! Thanks for this well-written post. Send it to VS please! I completely agree with every sentence in your post! It is the company’s own fault they ended up in this mess, and they should deal with the consequences. I used to work there, and I know too well the pushing of credit and service. It has gotten worse, I won’t even go in anymore for fear of being stalked by the sales people.

While I am a small, I have to say that even on my end of the spectrum, VS does not offer any choices. I never find A cups in pretty bras. If you are not a 34C, which most women aren’t, you cannot shop there. Bras are not meant to cater to the sexual desires of men! Thanks for this well-written post. Send it to VS please!

]]> By: Lynette Radio http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6659 Lynette Radio Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:08:01 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6659 *GREAT POST* Bras are meant to hold the girls up & sometimes make us feel a little better about ourselves - not give our husbands an easy way out of gift-giving with scratchy, ill-fitting nighties. Hell, if I want to look like a stripper I'll buy my own damn stuff at Fredrick's of Hollywood, VS used to be much classier. *GREAT POST* Bras are meant to hold the girls up & sometimes make us feel a little better about ourselves – not give our husbands an easy way out of gift-giving with scratchy, ill-fitting nighties. Hell, if I want to look like a stripper I’ll buy my own damn stuff at Fredrick’s of Hollywood, VS used to be much classier.

]]> By: April http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6614 April Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:51:07 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6614 I really do think you should print not only the letter but the numerous comments as well to the CEO. I am a size 6, but I agree with your complaints, and also feel that the bra sizes are not in line with what women's bodies are really like, nor are they worth the price. I recently ordered some underwear from them that is not comfortable, and also doesn't fit me right. I keep finding myself in the middle of sizes; too big for a small, too small for a medium. I really do think you should print not only the letter but the numerous comments as well to the CEO. I am a size 6, but I agree with your complaints, and also feel that the bra sizes are not in line with what women’s bodies are really like, nor are they worth the price. I recently ordered some underwear from them that is not comfortable, and also doesn’t fit me right. I keep finding myself in the middle of sizes; too big for a small, too small for a medium.

]]> By: Lisa http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6605 Lisa Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:21:12 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6605 I saw agree--I am a size 2 and I do not like the clothes--they are so uncomfortable! Will you send the letter, please?!! I saw agree–I am a size 2 and I do not like the clothes–they are so uncomfortable!
Will you send the letter, please?!!

]]> By: Nichole http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6604 Nichole Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:55:11 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6604 In.Deed. Well said. In.Deed.

Well said.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6599 Kelly Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:54:38 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6599 Amen! You tell 'em sister!! I haven't shopped at Victoria's Secret since.....well, ever! I have always been a 14+ and I can guarantee their 14 ain't no 14!! Amen! You tell ‘em sister!! I haven’t shopped at Victoria’s Secret since…..well, ever! I have always been a 14+ and I can guarantee their 14 ain’t no 14!!

]]> By: angeljooy http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6596 angeljooy Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:29:23 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6596 I don't know why they call it Victoria's Secret, there's no secret left to it. I don't know how they get away with sending out this pornagraphic magazine thinly guised to sell underwear or other "ho" looking clothing. I stopped receiving it a long time ago realizing that (a) I will NEVER be able to wear anything out of it and (2) to protect my husband. I don’t know why they call it Victoria’s Secret, there’s no secret left to it. I don’t know how they get away with sending out this pornagraphic magazine thinly guised to sell underwear or other “ho” looking clothing. I stopped receiving it a long time ago realizing that (a) I will NEVER be able to wear anything out of it and (2) to protect my husband.

]]> By: Sandy (Momisodes) http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6595 Sandy (Momisodes) Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:55:32 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6595 So well said and well written! It's amazing how little people know about how powerful the mom and woman consumer is. Your post touched on so many great points, I couldn't agree more or have said it any better. Well done! So well said and well written! It’s amazing how little people know about how powerful the mom and woman consumer is. Your post touched on so many great points, I couldn’t agree more or have said it any better. Well done!

]]> By: Jamie E http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6594 Jamie E Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:57:41 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6594 http://lanebryant.charmingshoppes.com/pagebuilder/cacique_landing?PAGEID=1502 hmm, looks pretty in shape to me, but that is just me I guess..... http://lanebryant.charmingshoppes.com/pagebuilder/cacique_landing?PAGEID=1502

hmm, looks pretty in shape to me, but that is just me I guess…..

]]> By: Annie http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6593 Annie Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:08:05 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6593 I agree with everything you said! And would just add that price is a factor - I used to pay $20 for five pairs of cotton knickers (now it's $25 I believe) but not anymore since I can go to Target and get a six pack of Hanes for a whole lot less! lol! I agree with everything you said! And would just add that price is a factor – I used to pay $20 for five pairs of cotton knickers (now it’s $25 I believe) but not anymore since I can go to Target and get a six pack of Hanes for a whole lot less! lol!

]]> By: Sarah http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6592 Sarah Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:44:16 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6592 I, for one, find the names of the bras absolutely hilarious! "Biofit"? "Pout"? WTH!! I totally agree about the sizes. I can't find anything there (except pretty perfumes and lotions), but I guess it's my fault for being a fatty. :P I, for one, find the names of the bras absolutely hilarious! “Biofit”? “Pout”? WTH!!

I totally agree about the sizes. I can’t find anything there (except pretty perfumes and lotions), but I guess it’s my fault for being a fatty. :P

]]> By: Mrs. Schmitty http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6588 Mrs. Schmitty Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:50:09 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6588 You are so right! And another thing I don't like about Victoria Secret's is the ads in the windows at the mall....a little risque for the kiddies. I have to cover my young son's eyes when we pass! You are so right! And another thing I don’t like about Victoria Secret’s is the ads in the windows at the mall….a little risque for the kiddies. I have to cover my young son’s eyes when we pass!

]]> By: Chuck http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6587 Chuck Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:02:46 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6587 I've gotta tell you, I've never really put much thought into the whole Victoria's Secret deal (being a man and all) but obviously you have. Quite compelling points and the comments are awesome as well. Let's hope Ms. CEO finds her way here. Blog Hoppin' - Chas I’ve gotta tell you, I’ve never really put much thought into the whole Victoria’s Secret deal (being a man and all) but obviously you have. Quite compelling points and the comments are awesome as well.

Let’s hope Ms. CEO finds her way here.

Blog Hoppin’ – Chas

]]> By: Kudzu Queen http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6586 Kudzu Queen Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:33:35 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6586 The fancy stuff is fine if I'm trying to look sexy for a special occasion (Assuming it fit and didn't pinch, scratch, or crawl up my a$$ crack like the kids do). I want cotton for everyday use - it washes better, lasts longer, and it's MUCH more comfortable when pulled on and abruptly released (why yes, I do have a toddler...) They sell some cotton stuff, but their fancy signature elastic doesn't last 1 washing before it's a tangle of string. Quality counts! I bought some cheap (read: inexpensive) low rise cotton bikinis at Kmart after my c-section, and almost 2 years later they're hanging in there. $1 a pair, came in 6 colors, S up to XXL, and they are comfy and stay where they are supposed to. 'Nuff said. Blog Hopping The fancy stuff is fine if I’m trying to look sexy for a special occasion (Assuming it fit and didn’t pinch, scratch, or crawl up my a$$ crack like the kids do). I want cotton for everyday use – it washes better, lasts longer, and it’s MUCH more comfortable when pulled on and abruptly released (why yes, I do have a toddler…) They sell some cotton stuff, but their fancy signature elastic doesn’t last 1 washing before it’s a tangle of string. Quality counts! I bought some cheap (read: inexpensive) low rise cotton bikinis at Kmart after my c-section, and almost 2 years later they’re hanging in there. $1 a pair, came in 6 colors, S up to XXL, and they are comfy and stay where they are supposed to.
‘Nuff said.
Blog Hopping

]]> By: geoff http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6584 geoff Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:47:06 +0000 http://www.suburbanoblivion.com/2008/03/07/open-letter-to-victorias-secret/#comment-6584 What Victoria's Secret advertises is certainly an unrealistic expectation of a woman. The models are skeletal, and each of them subscribes to a regimen of extreme dieting, excessive exercise, elective surgery, etc... But women are being just as unrealistic if they are also going to continue to pound down the cheeze doodles. A woman above a size 14, frequently, is overweight, if not obese. All that extra fat is taxing her heart, forcing her children into a diabetic lifestyle, and shortening her life significantly. As a man, I find the lingerie to be secondary to the woman. I would much rather see a toned calf, a shapely thigh, and a stomach covered in stretch marks that only has ONE radius, than an extra wide lace black band of cloth, struggling to maintain its tenuous fathold. Dead isn't sexy. Great blog! What Victoria’s Secret advertises is certainly an unrealistic expectation of a woman. The models are skeletal, and each of them subscribes to a regimen of extreme dieting, excessive exercise, elective surgery, etc…

But women are being just as unrealistic if they are also going to continue to pound down the cheeze doodles. A woman above a size 14, frequently, is overweight, if not obese. All that extra fat is taxing her heart, forcing her children into a diabetic lifestyle, and shortening her life significantly.

As a man, I find the lingerie to be secondary to the woman. I would much rather see a toned calf, a shapely thigh, and a stomach covered in stretch marks that only has ONE radius, than an extra wide lace black band of cloth, struggling to maintain its tenuous fathold.

Dead isn’t sexy. Great blog!

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